First of all, I was just asking a question for clarification I didn't mean to poke at a sore. Second, Jesus taught that being born again was essential if a person wanted to ever get to heaven. Third, I would say your vituperative responses reveal something unpleasant about you which is preventing you from having an intelligent conversation with little ol' me. Finally, from your responses, I am not exactly drawn to read anything you have written. So, let me know what you want.